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发表于 2012-6-8 06:51 | 显示全部楼层
根据国际上的研究显示一些听力损失者更喜频率补偿宽的助听器。 Karlsen、 Flynn 和 Eneroth等听力学家比较了不同高频补偿范围助听器用户的佩戴效果。同一佩戴者在佩戴高频补偿范围不同的助听器后,对于辅音识别能力和聆听自然程度上出现了明显的差别,高频补偿越宽的助听器用户对辅音的分辨率更高。所以,他们认为助听器高频补偿超过8000Hz的助听器用户言语理能力更强、助听器的音质更自然。

为了进一步证实超级频宽的好处,Eriksholm分别对于佩戴助听器最大频宽达6000Hz、8000Hz和10000Hz的效果做了比较实验。图中是同一用户在佩戴不同频宽的助听器后,对于不同的刺激声音信号的分辨情况。

结果表明:言语信号、音乐信号和自然声信号刺激下,佩戴助听器高频频宽越高,声音分辨越高。这意味着更宽的高频补偿,能够帮助用户提高声音的分辨能力。如果是需要言语训练的聋儿和需要学习不同语言的人士佩戴更宽高频补偿的助听器,意义将会更加深远!

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发表于 2012-6-8 07:06 | 显示全部楼层
这边应该是原文,讨论了针对平均超高频损失达60多分贝的佩戴者的益处
http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/2009-06_05.asp
Results from this study show a preference for wider bandwidths for speech and music. Listeners reported that the hearing aid with a 10,000 Hz bandwidth sounded clearer with more nuances audible than a hearing aid with an 8000 Hz bandwidth. These results are important because they indicate that a wider bandwidth may increase hearing-impaired listeners' overall satisfaction with the sound quality of their hearing aids.

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发表于 2012-6-8 09:07 | 显示全部楼层
这篇原来是奥迪康内部做的研究,作者全是奥迪康内部人员,请问,有没有第三方的文献?

关于峰力移频有几十篇文献,我会慢慢贴上来的。

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发表于 2012-6-8 09:20 | 显示全部楼层

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试验对象是: A total of 15 people (12 men and three women) with mild-to-moderate hearing loss participated in this study (Figure 1). Participant ages ranged from 32 to 73 years, with an average of 62 years.

全是成年人,没有一个儿童,不支持前面几篇国内的说法。

我们知道,儿童对高频需求更多。

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发表于 2012-6-8 09:21 | 显示全部楼层
引用第146楼林照跃于2012-06-07 10:31发表的  :
注意,上述这份资料我只是不想引用其他文献里的,其他文献有这个资料,不过去掉了欧仕达这一句,但涉及别人的版权,不想引起不必要的纠纷而已,所以将这篇文章原文复制下来。
另一篇资料的网址为:http://www.chineseaudiology.com/zhutinqi/html/2011221213114.html

这篇呢,也不是研究报告。

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发表于 2012-6-8 09:31 | 显示全部楼层
引用第148楼林照跃于2012-06-07 11:06发表的  :
这边应该是原文,讨论了针对平均超高频损失达60多分贝的佩戴者的益处
http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/2009-06_05.asp
Results from this study show a preference for wider bandwidths for speech and music. Listeners reported that the hearing aid with a 10,000 Hz bandwidth sounded clearer with more nuances audible than a hearing aid with an 8000 Hz bandwidth. These results are important because they indicate that a wider bandwidth may increase hearing-impaired listeners' overall satisfaction with the sound quality of their hearing aids.
仔细看了一下,奥迪康的内部研究文章显示成人用户比较喜欢频宽更宽的助听器,频宽可以改善音质,而且仅限于奥迪康内部产品,没有与其他厂家产品进行对比。

这篇文章并没有说明:
1、频宽更宽能否提升言语清晰度?
2、频宽更宽能否提升高频补偿?
3、频宽更宽能否改善语训效果?
此外,文章局限于:
1、研究对象全部是成人,一个儿童都没有,不能说明频宽更宽在儿童验配的作用。
2、作者全部是奥迪康内部人员,没有一个第三方机构参与。

希望,林照跃先生能够提供第三方机构研究数据,频宽10000Hz到底能提升多少言语清晰度?到底对儿童验配语训有何种帮助?

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发表于 2012-6-8 09:34 | 显示全部楼层
你别急,我会慢慢找的。因为结论跟儿童有些不相关,所以没有发表意见。

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发表于 2012-6-8 11:54 | 显示全部楼层
Conclusion: These results suggest that children with HL may benefit from extended high-frequency amplification when learning new words and for other long-term auditory processes.
http://jslhr.highwire.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/3/785

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发表于 2012-6-8 12:09 | 显示全部楼层
Extended Bandwidth and Speech Perception
Pittman1 noted that, upon high school graduation, the average graduate commands some 60,000 words. Unfortunately, children with hearing impairment develop vocabulary in a delayed fashion, apparently related to their degree of hearing loss. Pittman evaluated 50 children between 8 and 10 years of age. A total of 36 of the children had normal hearing and 14 had moderate-to-severe hearing loss. Her study compared word-learning rates when children were exposed to restricted (4 kHz) versus extended high-frequency (9 kHz) bandwidths. Regardless of hearing status, Pittman found all children learned words significantly faster while using extended high-frequency bandwidths. The research noted that restricted hearing aid bandwidths may provide an ambiguous signal; children may require more exposures to the primary signal to perceive the subtle acoustic elements required for word-learning.

Stelmachowicz et al4 in 2001 investigated stimulus bandwidth as it relates to the perception of the phoneme /s/ across 80 subjects, including normal-hearing and hearing-impaired subjects. The speech stimuli were created by male, female, and child talkers. Speech stimuli were low-pass filtered at five settings between 2 kHz and 9 kHz. Although subjects' perceptual performance for the male speaker was maximal at a bandwidth of 5 kHz, mean performance for the female speaker improved until the widest bandwidth (9 kHz) was reached. Likewise, for the child speaker, the subjects' performance increased steadily as the bandwidth was increased. The authors stated aided audibility for high-frequency sounds is a problem for children with mild-to-moderate hearing loss, as well as for children with severe-to-profound hearing loss.

In 2004, Stelmachowicz et al5 echoed concerns about limited bandwidth in behind-the-ear (BTE) hearing aids as inadequate for accurate representation of high-frequency speech sounds. The authors stated that, even in BTEs, gain typically dropped precipitously at about 5 kHz (at least in 2004). Further, they concluded adult studies of hearing aid users (presumably with speech and language skills developed and intact) cannot be used to predict performance in children (in whom speech and language skills are being developed), and they suggested the greatest delays in hearing-impaired children (with respect to phonological development) occur with fricatives, consistent with inadequate hearing aid bandwidth.

Last year, Stelmachowicz et al6 reported on 32 children with normal hearing and 24 children with hearing loss. The children ranged in age from 7 to 14 years. Four auditory tasks were used to assess the effects of bandwidth. The speech stimuli were from a female talker, low pass filtered at 5 kHz and 10 kHz in noise. Normal-hearing children demonstrated significant bandwidth effects for nonsense syllables and words. Children with hearing loss listening to the 10 kHz bandwidth demonstrated significant improvements for monosyllabic words, seemingly related to improved phoneme perception. The authors concluded restricted bandwidths can negatively impact speech sound perception, particularly with regard to /s/ and /z/ when spoken by females, and noted an inability to correctly perceive these sounds may impede phonological and morphological development.

http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/2008-10_02.asp

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发表于 2012-6-8 12:34 | 显示全部楼层

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我刚刚把这篇文章的全文大致看了一下,发现了几个问题~

希望你认真研究下~摒弃你的主管思维,客观的总结一些东西~
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